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力特做偏光板的，LCD的一個零件，
早年前曾是外資強力推薦的一家績優股。
偏光板不好做，只有日本日東良率高一點之外其它都很低，
良率低，廢料多，製造成本上升。
力特把廢料改列成固定資產的一部分，
跟機器設備一樣分年攤提，
本來廢料當年度就該打掉，
跟機器設備一樣分5年或7年攤提，
如此製作成本下降，獲利就好看許多。

Optimax (3051.TW) is a manufacturer of polarizers, a crucial component in the production of LCD screens. The company has previously been highly recommended by foreign investors due to its strong growth potential. However, the manufacturing process of polarizers is complex, and only Japan's Nitto has a high output. As a result of low output and high waste, the manufacturing costs have been on the rise. To tackle this challenge, Optimax has reclassified waste as part of its fixed asset machinery and equipment in bookkeeping, following a similar approach to equipment depreciation. This reclassification will be divided into either 5 or 7 years and is expected to reduce production costs, leading to a significant increase in profits.

為何可以這樣做？走會計法規的漏洞，
會計法允許新買的機器在試產階段所產生的廢料，
可當作機器設備的一部分，
整個過程叫做廢料成本資本化，
所謂資本化就是資本支出化，即分年攤提的意思。
在別處可看到一個名詞叫利息費用資本化，
就是分年攤提利息費用。

Why can this be done? By exploiting a loophole in accounting regulations. Under accounting laws, waste generated during the trial production phase of newly purchased machinery can be categorized as part of the machinery and equipment. This process is referred to as scrap cost capitalization. The term "capitalization" means that it is treated as a capital expenditure that is amortized over a period of years. A similar term, "interest expense capitalization," is used in other instances to refer to the amortization of interest expenses over a period of years.

力特這樣做造成固定資產暴增，
在短短2年不到的時間暴增3倍，從4,199劇升到16,941，
當時對外解釋是在快速成長的產業，買了很多機設備，
其實都是廢料。

Optimax's actions resulted in a significant increase in fixed assets, which tripled from 4,199 to 16,941 in less than two years. The company justified this by stating that they were in a fast-growing industry and had purchased many machines and equipment. However, in reality, these assets were primarily waste products.

它這樣做剛好盈再率可以看得出來，
固定資產暴增，盈再率接近200%。

This scandal can be detected by the PR ratio. As fixed assets increased dramatically, the PR ratio rose to nearly 200%.

2004年上課我就把它列為地雷股候選人，
當時股價還在70幾元，沒人知道這家公司有問題，
後來股價一路跌到 1 元。
它被交易所查帳查出來，要求重編財報。
這張表是重編前的數字，
現在盈再表按出來是重編後的數字，
表示即便拿假的財報我們一樣看得出問題來。

In 2004, I flagged this company as a potential landmine stock candidate. At the time, the stock was trading at around NT$70 with no apparent issues. However, the stock price then plummeted to NT$1, exposing the company's financial irregularities. A stock exchange audit uncovered irregularities that resulted in the company's financial reports being redacted. The tables in this document show financial data prior to restatement. Currently, On's tables have been renumbered. This shows that even with false financial reporting, potential problems can still be identified.

為何即便假財報我們一樣看得出來？
因為作假帳是宣稱賺很大卻只配一點息，配息率會低。
把現金掏空出去則必要有出路，即長投和固資，
盈再率當然高。

How can we detect falsified financial reports? One indicator is a company's low dividend payout ratio, which may occur when a company claims to have high profits but only distributes a small amount of dividends. To conceal cash misappropriation, a company may resort to long-term investments and fixed capital. A high PR% is also a sign of such actions.

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勤美是2009年看電視的一則新聞報導，
檢調去搜索他們公司。
看到新聞去按盈再表，當場嚇一跳，
難道檢調也有盈再表？檢調也是按盈再表在辦案嗎？
只要盈再率超過200%的通通抓起來！

I came across the CMP (1532.TW) case on TV news in 2009. Prosecutors conducted a search of the company. As I watched the news, I checked the earnings report and was shocked to find that the prosecutors seemed to have the same earnings report. I wondered if the prosecutors were also using On’s table to handle the case. It seemed that anyone with a PR% of over 200% was being arrested.

勤美高價買不良債權，買環亞百貨，
請問高價買不良債權哪個科目會高？
長投，導致盈再率超過200%。

CMP has purchased bad debts at high prices because they acquired Asia Department Store. What will be the impact on the accounts when purchasing bad debts at a high price? This would likely result in a long-term investment, potentially leading to a PR% exceeding 200%.

建議同學要養成習慣，看到新的地雷股時就去按盈再表，
看在事先能否看得出來？
有看不出來的例子請通報一下。

I encourage students to cultivate the habit of checking On's table whenever they encounter a new case of landmine stocks, in order to detect them in advance. Any exceptions to this rule should be reported promptly.

這裡有2家中國的地雷股。
第一個例子五糧液，2009年傳出虛增營收10億元，作假帳。
同學跟我通報這個消息我去按盈再表就這樣，
配息率很低僅15%不到。

China has two landmine stocks, with Wuliangye (000858.TW) being the first one. In 2009, it was reported that false accounts had inflated the company's sales by RMB 1 billion. A student informed me of this news, and I confirmed it on On's table, which revealed that the stock has a low dividend payout ratio of less than 15%.

江西賽維是中國的太陽能廠，2009年財務吃緊，
它在美國上市代號LDK。
盈再率超過200%，危險訊號，
有兩種可能性，一是被嚴重淘空，
二是在大量投資的產業，
DRAM、LCD和太陽能都是，下場都很慘。
太陽能看來是不宜投資的產業。
不僅中國的太陽能廠，台灣的太陽能公司盈再率也都超過200%。

LDK Solar (LDK) is a Chinese solar power plant that encountered financial difficulties in 2009. It is listed as LDK in the US. Its PR% exceeds 200%, which is a red flag. There are two potential explanations for this: embezzlement or aggressive expansion. This is not only applicable to the solar power industry but also to other sectors, such as DRAM, LCD, and more. As a result, investing in solar energy may not be wise in the long run. This is not only evident in Chinese solar power plants but also in Taiwanese solar companies where the PR% exceeds 200%.

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只有作假帳和掏空才可能從財報中看出來，
其它類型地雷股則很難，因為問題不在跟財報上。
例如業務風險特別大，次級房貸、DRAM這種業務，
或者老闆跑去賭博是去玩期貨、選擇權把整個公司玩垮掉。
期貨、選擇權只要價格波動劇烈整個本金瞬間賠光，
等到3個月之後看到財報已經來不及。
唯一防範之道是被動式的多種果樹，分散風險。

Only fraudulent accounting and embezzlement can be detected through financial reports; other types of stock pitfalls are hard to spot because the issues do not appear on the financial statements. For instance, businesses with high operational risks like subprime mortgages or DRAM operations, or cases where the boss gambles away the company's future by speculating in futures and options, can cause the company to collapse. In the realm of futures and options, severe price fluctuations can wipe out all the capital instantly, and by the time the financial reports are viewed three months later, it's too late. The only way to mitigate such risks is through a passive approach of diversifying into multiple types of investments, akin to planting various kinds of fruit trees.

這裡有幾個例子，貝爾斯登是美國的一家投資銀行，
專做承銷業務的證券公司，幫企業籌資和併購，
這是一家績優股。
2008年突然宣布公司一股要用2元賣給JP摩根，
股價直接從50幾元跌到2元。
在出事之前手上現金來還有350幾億美金，1兆多台幣，
一夕之間倒閉，從財報上完全看不出任何徵兆。
不只貝爾斯登，另外2家雷曼跟美林也都是績優股，
因次級房貸風暴倒閉，事先毫無徵兆。

Let's take a few examples. Bear Stearns (BSC) was a blue-chip investment bank in the US that specialized in underwriting business, helping companies raise funds, and mergers and acquisitions. However, in 2008, the company suddenly announced its sale to JP Morgan for $2 per share, resulting in a steep drop in stock price from $50 to $2. Despite having $35 billion in cash reserves, equivalent to over NT$1 trillion, the company went bankrupt overnight with no prior indication in the financial reports. Not only Bear Stearns, but also the other two blue-chip companies, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch, went bankrupt without any prior warning during the subprime mortgage crisis.

什麼是次級房貸？
就是信用比較差的人想買房子，借錢給他去買房子，
因信用比較差所以房貸利率高，
還被認為利潤不錯的業務。
2007年美國利率突然拉升造成房地產崩跌，
這些人開始付不出房貸，
付不出房貸房子就被拍賣處理掉，
為何2008年問題搞到那麼大？
原因就是衍生性金融商品所惹的禍。
買房子的人跟銀行申請貸款，
銀行不會把房貸的風險攬在自己身上，
通常會再轉貸出去給二房，
Fraddie Mac 和Fannie Mae，類似台灣的土地銀行。
跟保險公司也是一樣，
保險公司不會把所有保險的風險攬在自己身上，
會轉保給再保公司，目的是要提早變現跟分散風險。

What is a subprime mortgage? It is a type of loan intended for people with poor credit who want to buy a house. Because of their poor credit, the mortgage interest rates are high, making it a profitable business. The sudden rise of interest rates in the US in 2007 caused the real estate market to collapse, making it difficult for people to pay their mortgages. If they can't pay, their house will be auctioned off.

Why did the problem become so significant in 2008? The reason is the trouble caused by financial derivatives. When a person buys a house and applies for a loan from a bank, the bank will not take the risk of the mortgage on itself. Usually, the mortgage is re-lent to two companies, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, similar to a land bank in Taiwan. Similarly, insurance companies will not take all insurance risks on themselves. The insurance will be transferred to a reinsurance company for the purpose of early realization and risk diversification.

2008年的利率降得很低，一年定存僅1%。
利潤這麼低的金融商品誰有興趣來買？
那時流行把這些商品透過衍生性金融商品再去包裝，
衍生性金融商品的槓桿倍數高，
期貨本金 1 元可以玩到20元的輸贏，
選擇權可以玩到14元輸贏，
亦即期貨價格波動5%整個本金就賠光，
選擇權波動7％就賠光。
2017年台股曾發生期貨閃崩，幾秒之內大跌10%，
只是閉眼養神一下，再睜開眼就破產了，
就是這麼可怕！

In 2008, interest rates dropped to a historically low level, with one-year time deposits yielding only 1%. Who would be interested in buying such a low-margin financial product? At that time, packaging these products through financial derivatives was popular. The leverage ratio of financial derivatives was very high, with a futures principal of $1 potentially yielding a profit of $20, and options up to $14. In other words, a 5% fluctuation in futures price could wipe out the entire principal, while a 7% fluctuation in options would lead to a total loss. In 2017, Taiwan's stock market futures plummeted and fell by 10% within seconds. It only takes a momentary lapse of attention to go bankrupt. It is truly a frightening prospect.

雷曼連動債也是衍生性金融商品包裝的結果，
當年一些定存族被拐去買連動債，因為利率特別高，
請問同學有沒有人記得當時連動債的利率幾％嗎？
這裡有沒有苦主的？
通常都說是他的朋友買的。
7％到15%！
同學會不會覺得奇怪，當時定存利率只有1％，
為何連動債利率竟然7%到15%這麼高呢？
原因即衍生性金融商品包裝的結果。
理專鼓吹「錢擺在銀行利率只有1%，
不如來買連動債有7％到15%，
而且它是公司債，持有到期就能還本。」
很多人因此去買連動債，
這也是衍生性金融商品惹的禍。

Lehman Brothers' structured notes were financial derivatives that were bundled together and had a reputation for having high yield rates, which prompted many depositors to invest in them. Does anyone recall the exact yield rates of these notes during that period? Did anyone here experience losses due to investing in them? It's commonly said that the investors themselves did not make the purchase, but rather a friend did. These notes offered returns of 7% to 15%, while the interest rate on a one-year time deposit was only 1%. The reason behind the high yield on structured notes was due to their link to derivatives. Financial advisors encouraged individuals to invest in these linked bonds, stating that "placing money in a bank with an interest rate of only 1% is not as good as investing in linked bonds that offer a yield of 7% to 15%. Furthermore, these bonds are corporate bonds that can be redeemed upon maturity," making them an appealing investment opportunity for many. However, it was ultimately the derivatives that caused the problems.

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2008年的問題非常嚴重，柏南克在聽證會上表示
「2008年是有史以來最嚴重的金融風暴，
甚至比1929年經濟大蕭條還可怕。
2008年最危急之時，
最重要的13家金融機構有12家在一到兩個禮拜之內即將倒閉。」
現在聽到他這樣講都覺得頭皮發麻，
原來我們的世界在2008年差一點毁滅掉！
試想若美國前12大銀行倒閉跟世界末日何異？
這是為何美國政府不惜印鈔票要解決這個問題。

Former Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke testified at a hearing that the problem in 2008 was extremely severe. He stated that the 2008 financial crisis was the most severe in global history, surpassing even the Great Depression. Bernanke noted that 12 of the country's 13 largest financial institutions were on the brink of collapse before they received government assistance. Reflecting on his testimony, I am struck by the gravity of the situation. It is alarming to think that the world economy was on the brink of collapse in 2008. If the top 12 banks in the United States had gone bankrupt, it could have had catastrophic consequences. This is why the US government was willing to print money to address the economic crisis.

同學問，1929年經濟大蕭條到底多可怕呢？
那個時代就長得這樣子，美國失業率25%，
很多人失業在街道上排隊領食物，
看板「免費的咖啡，還有甜甜圈給失業的人」。
卓別林是那個時代的人物，
他演的默劇在反應那個時代的故事，
我小時候看過他演的一部默劇，印象深刻。
我的小時候就是指40幾年前，
那時中視剛剛開播，常播他的默劇。
他演到想要吃牛排，卻買不起，
只好把皮鞋拿來烤一烤煮了吃，他的特徵就是皮鞋特別大。
這個問題若發生在我們這個年代會更嚴重，
因為我們的皮鞋來都是塑膠皮，口感比較差。
因此美國政府不惜印鈔票也要解決這個問題。

A student inquired about the severity of the Great Depression of 1929. This photograph from that time period shows the distressing reality of a 25% unemployment rate in the United States, where many people were jobless and lining up for food. One banner read, "Free coffee and doughnuts for the unemployed." Charlie Chaplin was a prominent figure of that era, and his pantomimes captured the essence of the times. I remember being impressed when I saw his pantomimes as a child more than 40 years ago, back when CTV had just started broadcasting and often aired his performances. In one skit, Chaplin's character desperately wanted to eat steak, but couldn't afford it. He resorted to baking his shoes and eating them, which was made more comical by his characteristically large leather shoes. If a similar situation were to occur in modern times, it would be even more dire, as most shoes are made of plastic instead of leather, which has a less appealing taste. That's why the US government would not hesitate to print money to address such economic crises.

2008年問題事先有誰看得出來？
就這個巴菲特看得出來。
在2003年報老巴大罵「衍生性金融商品是大規模毁滅性武器，
總有一天會把金融市場炸掉。」
果然料中。
老巴在併購金融公司時都會到它的自營部去查帳，
若有在玩衍生性金融商品就要求趕快把合約處理掉。
這種事情對我們小散戶沒辦法查帳，是看不出來的。

Who was able to anticipate the 2008 crisis? Warren Buffett was one such person. In his 2003 report, he criticized derivatives as "financial weapons of mass destruction, carrying dangers that, while now latent, are potentially lethal." As he had foreseen, the crisis unfolded in 2008. When Buffett acquires a financial company, he personally inspects its trading room to scrutinize its accounts. If they are found to be involved in financial derivatives, he promptly eliminates them from consideration. Unfortunately, retail investors are unable to perform such checks, as these types of financial activities are not always detectable in financial reports.

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宏億國賣DRAM的上櫃公司，
賣DRAM或IC的都有一個基本常識，
不能囤積太多存貨，因IC的價格波動劇烈，
存貨太多很容易被現貨價格燙到，
這是眾人皆知的基本常識。
想不到宏億國在2008年居然去買滿了DRAM，
淨值10億元，存貨13億元，全部DRAM。
2008年上半年油價漲到最高147美元一桶，
原料價格都在漲，唯獨DRAM不漲。
宏億國想該輪到DRAM漲一下吧，
全部押滿，想要發一次show hand比較快，
不料後來DRAM不僅沒漲且續跌，公司整個就賠光了。
這很難令人料想到，業者應該比我們更知DRAM的風險，
卻輕忽大意。

DBK International (3079.TW), which is traded on the OTC market, specializes in selling DRAM. Those in the DRAM or IC business tend to keep low inventory levels due to the volatility of IC prices, which can easily eat into company profits. This is common knowledge. However, in 2008, DBK unexpectedly purchased a large amount of DRAM despite having net assets of only NT$1 billion and an inventory worth NT$1.3 billion, all of which consisted of DRAM. In the first half of 2008, oil prices hit a record high of $147 per barrel, causing raw material prices to rise correspondingly. However, DRAM prices did not follow suit. DBK believed that DRAM prices would increase and made a risky gamble to profit quickly. Unfortunately, DRAM prices not only failed to rise but continued to plummet, resulting in an overall loss for the company. It is surprising that the company, which specializes in DRAM, did not better understand the risks involved. Their negligence led to significant losses.

皇田做汽車窗簾的，本業還不錯，
ROE 30%，配息穩定。
2008年公司操作外匯衍生性金融商品虧超過了一個股本。
做外銷或有外幣部位的公司或多或少都會操作外匯，
為了避險，
皇田卻想賺更多押大注，因而虧超過一個股本。
後來是財務主管下台，
我不相信種事情財務主管可以決定，應該是老闆的問題。
現在公司已恢復正常，股價漲到200元。

Macauto (9951.TW) specializes in producing automotive curtains, and its core business is performing very well. The company boasts a ROE of 30%, and its dividend payouts are stable. However, in 2008, Macauto engaged in foreign exchange derivatives trading, resulting in a significant loss of capital. Companies that export products often have foreign exchange positions and engage in foreign exchange trading to some degree. In an attempt to increase profits, Macauto took a larger bet, which ultimately resulted in a loss of equity. The treasurer responsible for these actions later stepped down. I believe that the responsibility for these decisions should lie with the company's leadership rather than the financial manager. Currently, the company has returned to a state of normalcy, and its stock price has risen to NT$200.

光洋科做貴金屬回收，難免會去玩商品期貨。
2016年2月油價跌到最低26美元一桶，
鐵礦砂價格創歷史新低，
公司因此大賠。
玩衍生性金融商品無法從財報上看得出來。

Solar Applied Materials Technology (1785.TW) specializes in recovering precious metals and is inevitably involved in commodity futures. In February 2016, oil prices dropped to as low as $26 per barrel, and iron ore prices hit a record low, resulting in significant losses for the company. Despite this, the company's financial reports do not indicate any speculative trading of financial derivatives.

還有一種地雷股也是無法事先從財報看出來，
即債務不能展延。

There is another type of landmine stock that cannot be identified in advance from financial reports, which means that the debt cannot be extended.

SDRL 挪威海上鑽油公司，
2018年因大股東不願再背龐大負債而倒閉

SDRL is a Norwegian offshore drilling company that went bankrupt in 2018 because its major shareholders were unwilling to take on significant debts.

GNC 營養藥品商，
2018年因跟銀行談判債務展延不順而倒閉

GNC is a retailer of nutritional supplements that went bankrupt in 2018 due to the failure of debt extension negotiations with banks.

這兩家公司過去獲利都很不錯，
自由現金流量也都是正數，速動比率也正常，
卻因負債不能展延而倒閉或面臨重大危機，
這也是從財報無法事先看出來的。

Despite having made substantial profits in the past, with positive free cash flow and a normal quick ratio, these two companies went bankrupt because their debts could not be extended. This was not apparent in advance from their financial reports.

財務分析的前題是假定債務可以展延，
否則不必分析，9成的公司都會倒閉，
除非是現金大於負債的公司，這種公司不多。

The premise of financial analysis is the assumption that a company's debt can be extended. Without this assumption, there would be little need for analysis, as 90% of companies would likely go bankrupt. There are only a few companies with more cash than debt.

根據我會計師的意見，
負債不能展延的案例很少見，
因為其實銀行更怕公司倒閉，
變成呆帳，銀行將成最直接受害者，
多半會讓公司展延，
搞到無法展延一定有不為外界所知的理由，
只有銀行和公司知道。

According to my accountant Wu, there are very few cases where debts cannot be extended because banks are more afraid of company failures. If debts turn into bad debts, banks become the most direct victims. In most cases, debt can be extended. When it cannot be extended, there must be reasons unknown to the public, which only banks and companies are aware of.

CLLN.UK 工程承攬公司
2018年因承攬了許多賠錢的工程而倒閉
最近3年2014-16自由現金流量為正
自殺式的賠本搶單盈再表看不出來

CLLN.UK, an engineering contracting company, closed down in 2018 after incurring losses on several projects. Despite generating positive free cash flow from 2014 to 2016, the company's financial situation deteriorated. It is difficult to detect the impact of suicide bidding on financial reports.

凱羿-KY，貿易公司
因醫療手套以及輕質循環油採購內控疏失，未對供應商進行評鑑，在用印之後才簽約等重大缺失，導致可能得認列10億違約金。
自2020年11月30日起打入全額交割股。
既非作假帳，亦不是掏空，盈再表當然看不出來

Kayee (2939.TW) is a trading company that may face NT$1 billion in liquidated damages due to internal control negligence in the procurement of medical gloves and lightweight circulating oil, failure to evaluate suppliers, and major deficiencies such as signing contracts after stamping. The stock has been downgraded to full delivery shares since November 30, 2020. While it is not related to false accounts or embezzlement of public funds, it cannot be detected from On's table.

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講稿 10/21：他們通通是錯的
Lecture 10/21 They are all wrong

上到這裡同學可能會突然想起來，
財務分析這門課蠻重要的，
從開始到現在都是根據財務報表在選股。
同學問有無必要再去看一些會計方面的書？
建議同學上完課之後不要把講義扔掉，
用精裝本裱起來，燙金字，三不五時拿出來翻個兩頁，
等到把講義看到滾瓜爛熟之後再決定要不要去看其他的書。

Our current lecture may remind you that financial analysis is very important. From the outset, we have been selecting stocks based on financial statements. Some students have asked if it is necessary to read accounting books. My suggestion is that after completing the course, students should not discard their handouts. Instead, they can have them bound in hardcover, embossed with gold lettering, and read a few pages periodically. Once they have thoroughly studied the handouts, they can then decide whether to explore other accounting books.

早年我也喜歡看各家投資的書，彼得林區、索羅斯都看過，
可是當我把巴菲特的道理想通之後就不再看那些書了，
因為那些投資大師的理論或多或少都還有一些問題，
唯一挑不太出毛病只有巴菲特。

During my early years, I used to read various investment books by authors such as Peter Lynch and Soros. However, once I comprehended Buffett's principles, I stopped reading those books. This is because the investment theories of those experts are somewhat flawed, whereas Buffett's ideas are the only exception.

有人以為我能夠把整個道理想通是因為博覽群書？
其實不是，而是從最基本的東西開始懷疑起。
我懷疑選股為何要看EPS，
打從當研究員的第一天即被告知要估EPS，
對我而言是天經地義的事，可是就懷疑，
因為看EPS必然會去追成長股，
可是我實際開公司卻不是這樣，
晉昂投顧獲利沒每年成長，可是都很賺錢，
所以不認為選股要看EPS。

Some people believe that my understanding of investment theory is a result of reading numerous books. However, that is not the case. I gained my understanding by grasping the fundamental concepts. For instance, I question why EPS is a critical factor for stock picking. While I was taught to estimate EPS from the first day of being an analyst, I have my doubts. Relying solely on EPS could lead to a focus on growth stocks, which is not always the case in actual company operations. In my own company, profits do not necessarily grow every year, yet it remains highly profitable. Therefore, I do not believe that stock selection should solely depend on EPS.

一度認為看ROA，後來確認該看ROE，
當知道選股看ROE時再去看波克夏年報就豁然開朗，
2003年發明出盈再率之後巴菲特理論則完全想通。

I used to think that ROA was the key factor for stock selection, but I later realized that ROE was more important. After discovering the significance of ROE in selecting stocks, I read Berkshire Hathaway's annual report and had a sudden realization. It was only after I developed the PR% indicator in 2003 that I fully grasped Buffett's investment theory.

把基本的東西想清楚最重要，因為一通百通，
後來同學拿杜邦公式、自由現金流量來問我，
這些東西原本跟我不熟，
可是一看即知道通通是錯的，一一指出錯在哪裡，
我未翻書也沒請教他人，就知道那些是錯的。

Once you understand the fundamentals, you can understand everything else clearly. Later on, my students asked me questions about DuPont's formula and free cash flow, which were not familiar to me. However, I was able to identify the errors at a glance and pointed them out one by one without the need to consult books or other sources.

在思考的過程中，有關會計方面的問題，
向好友吳朝同會計師和蔣榮霖先生請教也至為關鍵，
買回庫藏股買到淨值為負即承蒙吳大會計師的指點。
會計是極其專業的學科，務必就教於專家，
而不要像那些沒修過會計的人胡亂想像。

During my investment analysis, I find it valuable to consult with my trusted accountant friends, Chaotong Wu and Ronglin Jiang. From Accountant Wu, I learned about the concept that buying back treasury stocks could result in negative net asset value. As accounting is a highly technical subject, it is crucial to learn from experts like them. It's unwise to have wild imaginations about accounting without proper study and guidance.

同學看別人的書有問題請直接去問作者，而不要來問我。
同學就是討厭，喜歡看別人的書又拿來問我，
因本班最開放，在討論區丟個問題出來，我就跳出來回答。
巴班討論區同學可自行出題提問，
篇幅不限，愛怎麼長篇大論、貼圖都歡迎，
不像別的投資社群用臉書(FB)，
只能按讚，不能自行出題，篇幅也小。

If you have any questions about other books, please reach out to the author directly instead of asking me. I don't appreciate when students ask me about content from other sources. This course is very open, and you are welcome to ask questions in the discussion forum. I will jump in to answer them. There is no limit to the length of your posts or the number of pictures you can use. This is different from other investment clubs that use Facebook as their forum. On Facebook, you can only "like" a post, but you can't ask new questions, and there is very limited space for discussion.

同學拿東西來問我，告訴他這個錯了，那個錯了，
同學聽不懂反過來誣指我太固執，
只認為自己對，別人都錯，說本班是一言堂。
實在無言！
不許我表示自己的意見，
還抹黑本班沒言論自由。

A dozen students came to me with a question, and I pointed out some of their mistakes. However, when they didn't understand, they wrongly accused me of being stubborn and only valuing my own ideas while disregarding others. They even went so far as to claim that our class was a one-man dictatorship. This left me speechless! Some students even prevented me from expressing my opinions and tarnished the class's reputation by falsely claiming a lack of freedom of speech.

這些都是過去同學看了別人的書來問我的題目：
杜邦公式、現金轉換循環、自由現金流量、技術分析、
景氣對策訊號燈、現金殖利率、股債蹺蹺板、
covered call、naked put、ROA，
通通都是錯的。

These are some of the questions that students asked me after reading other books: DuPont formula, cash conversion cycle, free cash flow, technical analysis, prosperity countermeasure signal light, cash yield, stock and debt seesaw, covered call, naked put, and ROA. However, they are all incorrect.

我告訴同學是錯的，是我在教他，
同學聽不懂反過來批我，實在夠衰。
我們小時候是老師罵學生，
現在好不容易當了老師，竟成學生在霸凌老師，
這年......頭都變了！

I informed the student that all of their questions were incorrect, as I was trying to teach them. However, instead of understanding, the student verbally attacked me. It is ironic that when I was a student, teachers would scold us for our mistakes, but now that I have become a teacher, I am being bullied by my students. This year has been quite topsy-turvy!

何以致此呢？
因為投資的觀念被污染之後就拉不回來了。
投資誰最好教？
離投資越遠的人越好教。
完全一竅不通和學歷最低的人最好教，
我叫他買什麼就買什麼，賣什麼即賣什麼，績效會最好。
什麼人最難教？
越自為以聰明專業的人越學不會巴菲特。

Why is this the case? It's because the concept of investment cannot be unlearned once it's been contaminated. Who makes the best investment students? The further away they are from the world of investment, the better. Those who are the least knowledgeable and have the lowest academic qualifications are the best candidates because they will simply follow my teachings, leading to the best investment performance. Who are the most challenging to teach? Those who believe they are smart and already knowledgeable about investing are the least likely to learn the ways of Buffett.

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再強調一次，把講稿唸熟就足以應付股市的各種狀況，
股市不會考課外題，全部從講稿出題。
同學應該會發現在討論區回答問題
我常常不用打很多字，多半在剪貼而已。
這個問題一看以前回答過了就貼出來，
那個問題也回答過再貼出來。
難怪有同學罵我，跟我講話跟鬼打牆一樣。
鬼打牆才是正確的啊！
表示我的理論經得起高考驗、顛撲不破，
不管怎樣問答案都是一致。

To reiterate, thoroughly familiarizing oneself with the speech is sufficient to handle various situations in the stock market. Exam questions will only cover lecture content and nothing else. Students may notice that I often use cut and paste in discussion forums instead of typing lengthy replies. If a question has been answered before, I will immediately post the answer. It is not surprising that some students criticize me for "talking to a wall." However, repeating concepts is necessary to reinforce them and aid in better retention. In fact, talking to a wall is the right approach because it demonstrates that my theory can withstand scrutiny and is not easily dismantled. Regardless of the question, the answer remains the same.

同學有問題時請直接到討論區來，
我三兩句話就可以打發掉，
而不要幾個同學私底下Line來Line去，
Facebook來Facebook去，
不懂的在問不懂的有什麼好問的呢！

If you have any questions, please come directly to the discussion forum where I can quickly solve them with just a few words. Instead of communicating privately on Line or Facebook, which may involve several students, it's best to seek help in the forum. Asking questions to someone who also does not know the answer is not helpful.

講這麼多同學還是問還有沒有一些更高階
更advanced的東西可以看？
若要更advanced請把講稿拿出來再唸一遍就是advanced。

Despite all that has been discussed, some students are still asking whether there are more advanced courses or content available. If you are looking for more advanced material, I suggest revisiting the lecture text and thoroughly familiarizing yourself with the content again. The lecture content is already advanced.

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真的不需要再看財務分析的書，
唸那些書會發現財務指標有上百個，但多半沒有用。
何以如此斷言？很簡單，
來回想一下我們在看財報到底想要知道什麼東西？
不外乎底下3點而已：
第一、看家公司的獲利能力好不好？
第二、看現金周轉會不會出問題？
第三、看作假帳或掏空？

You no longer need to read financial analysis books. Most of the financial indicators presented in these books are useless. I make this assertion based on a simple fact: when reading financial reports, the only things you need to know boil down to three key points:
1. Is the company profitable?
2. Is there a potential issue with cash flow?
3. Is there a risk of accounting fraud or embezzlement?

第一、看公司的獲利能力好不好？
看EPS、ROA、ROIC、毛利率…
都不如看ROE。

To evaluate the company's profitability, you should look at metrics such as EPS, ROA, ROIC, and gross margin. However, it is even better to focus on the ROE.

同學問選股要不要看毛利率、營業利潤率、稅後淨利率？
他們以為利潤率高的公司獲利會比較好。
不用，選股不必看利潤率，
因為高毛利不等於高獲利。
威盛毛利28%是虧損累累的公司，
鴻海毛利率只有6％卻賺大錢。
毛利率跟行業別有關，
鴻海做代工毛利率不可能高得起來，
毛利率雖然低，可是量很大依舊賺很多錢。
鴻海的毛利率若高量又大，就不叫鴻海了，
改叫蘋果啦。

Students asked whether it's advisable to choose stocks based on gross margin, operating margin, and net margin, as they believe that companies with high profit margins will yield better profits. However, this is not always the case since a high profit margin does not necessarily translate to high profits. For instance, VIA has a high gross profit margin of 28%, but it suffers significant losses. On the other hand, Hon Hai has a low gross profit margin of only 6%, but it generates substantial profits. It's worth noting that the gross margin is industry-specific, and Hon Hai's OEM gross profit rate cannot be high. If Hon Hai had a high gross profit margin and made significant profits, it would not be called Hon Hai, but rather, Apple.

有人說毛利率的比較，非不同行業別的比較，
而是公司本身自己比較。
就自己來跟自己比，鴻海1991年剛上市時在做連接器，
毛利率高達25%，卻只賺一點點錢。
後來做代工毛利逐年下降到只有6％，可是錢越賺越多。
宏達電也是，當年公司宣示要展開機海戰略，
不惜犧牲毛利率來搶佔市場時毛利率也逐季下降，
可是手機越賣越好，ROE一路攀高，
股價從300元漲到1,300元。
毛利率下降有何關係呢！選股不用看毛利率。

Some people argue that comparing gross margins is not about comparing different industries, but rather comparing the company's performance against itself. For instance, Hon Hai had a high gross margin of 25% when it went public in 1991 from producing connectors but only earned a small profit. Later, its gross margin decreased to 6% per year from OEM, yet it made more money. Similarly, HTC sacrificed its gross margin to seize the market when it launched its machine-sea strategy, leading to a decline in gross margin each quarter, but with an increasing ROE due to rising mobile phone sales, its stock price rose from NT$300 to NT$1,300. Therefore, the decline in gross margin is irrelevant when selecting stocks.

有個同學堅持選股一定是要看毛利率，不看不行，
問他會不會因為毛利率下降而把股票賣掉？
又答不會。
既然不會為什麼要看呢！
同學老是在跟我爭辯一些自己也不遵守的原則。
請同學要來辯論之前請先把自己的原則執行5遍以上，
無窒礙難行之處了再來討論。

I had a student who insisted that stock selection must be based on gross margin. When I asked him if he would sell stocks because of a decline in gross profit margin, he answered no. So why bother watching it then? It seems that students often argue with me about principles that they themselves do not follow. Before engaging in a debate, it is important to implement your principles consistently at least five times.

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第二、看一家公司的現金周轉不靈？
看現金流量表、利息保障倍數、流動比率、負債比...
都不如看盈再率有效。

Secondly, evaluate if the company has sufficient cash flow. This can be done by checking the cash flow statement, interest cover ratio, current ratio, debt ratio, among other factors. However, it is more effective to look at the PR% when assessing cash flow.

同學問為何我們不看負債比？
巴六點提到高ROE，低負債，
巴爺爺都這樣主張，為何我們不看？
他們認為負債比高的公司就不好。
也有人說銀行的負債特別大，
銀行的資產大部分是客戶的存款，屬於負債，
銀行的負債比高達90%，
他們就以為銀行股要改看ROA，淨利÷資產。
這些通通都是錯的！

The students asked why we don't consider the debt ratio. Buffett's six criteria mention high ROE and low debt, and Mr. Buffett advocates for this, so why don't we pay attention to it? They believe that companies with high debt ratios are risky. Some people argue that banks have particularly high debt because most of their assets are customer deposits, which are liabilities. The debt ratio of banks can reach up to 90%. They also suggest that the indicator for monitoring bank stocks should be changed to ROA, which is net profit divided by assets. However, all of these ideas are incorrect.

1. 公司可以靠高負債來賺錢。
主機板正是靠應付和應收帳款來賺利息錢，
若進貨銷貨全付現反而賺不到錢。

超商統一超、全家負債比70%，
它們都是收現金，為何負債比反而特別高？
開給廠商的貨款卻是3個月以後的票子，
為了賺利息。

1. Companies can generate income through high levels of debt.
For instance, motherboard manufacturers can earn interest income by relying on accounts payable and accounts receivable. If they were to pay for purchases and sales in cash, they would not be able to generate this income.

Similarly, companies such as President Chain Store (2912.TW) and Taiwan FamilyMart (5903.TW) have a debt ratio of 70%. Although they receive cash, their debt ratio is high because they issue promissory notes to suppliers that are payable in 3 months in order to earn interest.

2. 負債比高的公司，風險就大？
不盡然如此，
有時候剛好相反，是業務風險低才可以高負債。
聯發科負債比22%，鴻海負債比63%，
請問誰的業務風險高？
當然是IC設計的聯發科業務風險高。
鴻海的業務風險其實很小，
它是全球最大代工廠，成本最低，
蘋果不給它做要給誰，跑不掉的。
鴻海因業務風險低，才可以高負債。

2. Do companies with high debt ratios have greater risks?
Not necessarily! In fact, the opposite can be true. Only low business risk leads to high debt. For instance, MediaTek (2454.TW) has a debt ratio of 22%, while Hon Hai (2317.TW) has a debt ratio of 63%. Whose business risk is higher? MediaTek's integrated circuit design involves high risks, while Hon Hai's business risks are actually quite low. Hon Hai is the largest foundry with the lowest cost in the world. If Apple does not place orders with Hon Hai, who else could they turn to? Apple cannot easily replace Hon Hai. Hon Hai has taken on a significant amount of debt due to their low operating risks.

3. 收現金的公司應該要高負債。
誰有資格跟銀行借錢，有錢人還是窮人？
銀行借給頂新買帝寶的房貸成數99%，因為他還得起。
為何不給我99%？因為我還不起。
有錢人才可以高負債。

Companies that receive cash often have high levels of debt.
Who is eligible to borrow money from banks - the rich or the poor? Banks lent 99% of the mortgage to Ting Hsin International to buy Dibao Mansion because they could afford it. Why wouldn't they give me 99%? Because I can't afford it. The wealthy are often able to take on high levels of debt.

超商負債比70%，西班牙電信負債比79%，
買庫藏股買到淨值為負，負債比超過100%，
都是收現金的公司，
收現金的公司若不懂得高負債，財務長失職。

President Chain Store has a debt ratio of 70%, while Telefónica's (TEF) debt ratio is 79%. The net assets of buying treasury stocks are negative, and the debt ratio exceeds 100%. All of these are cash collection companies. If a cash-receiving company does not understand the risks associated with high levels of debt, the CFO may be considered negligent.

我最喜歡買收現金、負債比超過100%，
杜邦公式卻說它會倒的公司。
杜邦公式把ROE拆成要看營收x毛利率x負債比，
認為負債比高就不好，實在荒謬，
殊不知收現金的公司負債比可超過100%，這其實是最好的公司。

My favorite companies to invest in are those that collect cash and have a debt ratio exceeding 100%. However, the DuPont formula predicts that these companies will fail. The formula breaks down ROE into sales x gross margin x debt ratio, but it's ridiculous to think that a high debt ratio is always bad. In fact, as many know, the debt-to-assets ratio of a cash-receiving company can exceed 100%, which actually indicates a strong company.

參閱：杜邦公式的荒謬
See: The absurdity of DuPont's formula

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4. 股權也是一種負債，跟股東借錢，只是不用還而已，
不用還的錢有時候最貴。
公司到底是應該增加債權還是股權？
應該以誰的成本低而定。
不是增加負債就一定不好。

Equity represents a form of debt that can be borrowed from shareholders without the obligation of repayment.
However, sometimes the money you don't have to pay back can be the most costly. Whether a company should increase its debt or equity should depend on which option has the lower cost. It's important to note that increasing debt doesn't necessarily come without benefits.

台積電2003年股息配3元，每股淨值30元，
等於跟股東借錢的利率10%，
若跟銀行借錢只要3％，
請問台積電應該跟誰借錢？
銀行！

In 2003, TSMC's dividend was NT$3 and its net asset value was NT$30, which is equivalent to a 10% interest rate for borrowing money from shareholders. If TSMC borrows money from banks, the interest rate is only 3%. Therefore, TSMC should borrow money from the bank.

舉債來提高ROE、配息、減資、買回庫藏股可不可以？
當然可以！當利率低時有何不可。

Can a company increase its debt to boost ROE, distribute dividends, reduce capital, and buy back shares? Absolutely! It's a viable option when interest rates are low.

有人把增加負債來提高ROE污名為財務操作，
這顯然是沒修過財務管理的結果，
外行人在望文生義，亂扯一通。

Some people stigmatize the use of increased debt to improve ROE as financial manipulation. This is clearly the result of not having studied financial management. Outsiders may misunderstand and make baseless claims.

選股為何不能看ROA？
因為ROA無法通盤比較。
台灣獲利最好的金控公司富邦金控2015年的ROA才1.2%，
電子股獲利普通的仁寶ROA都還有2.2%。

ROA may not be a dependable metric for selecting stocks due to the inability to make an apples-to-apples comparison of ROA values across different companies.
In 2015, Fubon Financial Holdings (2881.TW), the most profitable financial holding firm in Taiwan, recorded a ROA of 1.2%. Meanwhile, Compal (2024.TW), an electronics company, had a ROA of 2.2%, which falls below the industry average.

誰的獲利能力好？

2015年 ROA
仁寶 2.2%
富邦金 1.2%

請問誰的獲利能力好？
仁寶ROE才9％，富邦金ROE16%。

Which company is more profitable?
Fubon has a ROE of 16%, while Compal's ROE stands at 9%.

2015年 ROE
仁寶 9%
富邦金 16% 勝

同樣是金融股一樣無法比較。
中壽ROA僅0.7%，台產ROA 6%，
壽險公司再怎麼會經營ROA不可能超過產險股。

Financial stocks cannot be compared in the same way. China Life Insurance (2823.TW) has an ROA of only 0.7%, while Taiwan Fire and Marine Insurance (2332.TW) have an ROA of 6%. No matter how well life insurance companies are managed, their ROA cannot surpass that of property and casualty insurance stocks.

金融業負債比高達9成，稍有閃失即可能破產，
在放款和投資上對於保本的要求特別高導致報酬率高不起來，ROA有1%就很好了。
製造業需負擔至少5%貸款利息，報酬率若無10%以上斷不會投入。
總之，ROA跟產業別有關，製造業遠高於金融業，產險高於壽險。

The financial industry faces a significant challenge with a debt-to-assets ratio as high as 90%, making even minor setbacks potentially leading to bankruptcy. The stringent requirement for capital preservation in lending and investments hampers the ability to achieve high returns. In this context, a 1% ROA is considered satisfactory.
Conversely, the manufacturing industry must bear a minimum loan interest burden of 5%, and investments are only pursued if the return exceeds 10%. Essentially, the ROA varies across industries. The manufacturing industry typically exhibits a significantly higher ROA when compared to the financial industry. Furthermore, property and casualty insurance generally surpasses life insurance in terms of ROA performance.

選股也非看ROIC，淨利/(淨值+長債)
因ROIC在評估總經理的績效，
我們是股東，在意的是我們的錢的績效，ROE。

Stock selection should not be based solely on ROIC, which is a metric used to assess the performance of CEOs. As shareholders, our primary concern is how our investment is performing, and therefore, we should focus on ROE, i.e., net profit divided by total equity. ROE is a more relevant measure of a company's profitability from a shareholder's perspective.

5. 盈再表不看負債，同學問若公司大量舉債致無法負擔，
能否事先看出來 ?

5. The student asked whether we could determine in advance if a company has taken on too much debt, given that there was no information about debt on On's table.

大量舉債看是借短債還是長債？
若大量借短債怕周轉不靈，盈再率高較易周轉不靈。
大量借長債則擔心利息負擔重，獲利下降，將無法維持高ROE。
所以從盈再率及ROE即可看出過度舉債的問題。

When a company takes on a significant amount of debt, we need to consider whether it is short-term or long-term. If a large portion of the debt is short-term, it could lead to insufficient cash flow, particularly if the PR% is high, leading to a potential cash crunch. Conversely, if a company has taken on a lot of long-term debt, we may be concerned about the heavy interest burden it may incur and the potential impact on profitability, which could result in a decline in ROE. Therefore, we can assess the issue of excessive borrowing by analyzing the PR% and ROE.

選股，即便是金融股，也是看ROE，
不用看ROA跟負債比。

When selecting stocks, including financial stocks, it is important to prioritize ROE as a key metric. ROA and debt ratio are not as critical to monitor in the selection process.

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第三、看作假帳或掏空？
看應收周轉率、存貨周轉率、現金流量
(包括營業活動現金或自由現金流量)…
都不如看配息率息與盈再率有用。

Third, is there a risk of accounting fraud or embezzlement?
Checking the accounts receivable turnover rate, inventory turnover rate, and cash flow (including operating cash flow or free cash flow) is not as useful as monitoring the dividend payout ratio and PR%.

同學來踢館！同學看了別人的書來跟我們討教，
他說自由現金流量這個指標也可以用來檢定地雷股，
自由現金流量為負表示公司現金周轉會有問題。

After reading other books, a student challenged me and claimed that free cash flow could be utilized to verify risky stocks. He argued that if a company has negative free cash flow, it indicates that there could be issues with the company's cash flow.

什麼是自由現金流量？
現金流量表有3個活動：營業活動、投資活動、融資活動。
自由現金流量只拿前面2個活動來相加，營業活動+投資活動。
這個例子，薪水10萬元，去買了12萬元股票，
自由現金流量即10萬元－12萬元＝ -2萬元，
表示這家公司會周轉不靈。

What is free cash flow? Free cash flow is the sum of a company's operating activities and investment activities, which are reported in the cash flow statement. It excludes financing activities.
For instance, if a person earned a salary of $100,000 and invested $120,000 in stocks, the free cash flow would be calculated as $100,000 - $120,000 = -$20,000, indicating a cash shortage for the person.

自由現金流量跟盈再率是兩個非常相像的公式。
自由現金流量拿2個活動來相加，
盈再率則拿2個活動相除，投資活動÷營業活動。
同樣例子，買了12萬元股票÷薪水10萬元＝盈再率120%。

Free cash flow and PR% are two formulas that are similar in nature. However, they differ in their approach. Free cash flow is the sum of two activities, whereas PR% is the ratio of investment activities to business activities.
Using the same example, if a person invests $120,000 in stocks and earns a salary of $100,000, the PR% would be calculated as $120,000 ÷ $100,000 = 120%.

自由現金流量不足就是盈再率大於100%，
盈再率100%意指薪水10萬元去買10萬元股票，
剛剛好夠用還不會有事。

When a company has insufficient free cash flow, it means that it has negative free cash flow, which could be greater than 100% PR%. A PR% of 100% indicates that a person has invested an amount equal to their salary in stocks. It's a balanced situation where the cash flow remains unchanged.

薪水10萬元買了20萬元股票，差距 1 倍了才可能周轉不靈，
即盈再率大於200%才會有事。
自由現金流量這個理論是錯的，錯在結論下錯，
不是小於0，要小於 -1 倍才會有事。

If an individual invests $200,000 in stocks with a salary of $100,000, and the resulting PR% is over 200%, it could lead to a cash shortage. This indicates that the conclusion of the free cash flow theory would be incorrect. In reality, free cash flow must be less than negative one times the salary to indicate a cash flow problem.

同學跟我拗「自由現金流量小於 0，不是指一年就會有事，
而是要長期才會有事。」
問他長期要多久？同學說8年。
我說「好！我們就來8年巴巴看。」
剛剛的例子，薪水10萬元去買了12萬元股票，
用資產負債表寫出來就是這樣：
資(12萬長投)=債(2萬)+值(10萬)。
每年都不足2萬元，同學說8年，我給它100年，夠長了吧，
資產負債表變成這樣：
資(1,200萬長投)=債(200萬)+值(1,000萬)，
後面各加2個零而已，負債比才17%，
公司會不會有事呢？不會吧！
即便自由現金流量100年都不足，公司一樣不會有事。

A classmate argued with me, "If free cash flow is less than zero, it doesn't mean there will be a problem in just one year, but it will take a long time." I asked him how long is long-term, and he said eight years. So I said, "Okay! Let's wait for eight years and see." In the previous example, a salary of $100,000 was used to purchase $120,000 worth of stocks. It can be represented on the balance sheet as: Assets ($120,000 in long-term investment) = Liabilities ($20,000) + Equity ($100,000). With an annual shortage of less than $20,000, my classmate said eight years, so I extended it to 100 years. The balance sheet would then look like this: Assets ($12,000,000 in long-term investment) = Liabilities ($2,000,000) + Equity ($10,000,000), with two additional zeroes added. The debt-to-equity ratio is only 17%. Would the company be in trouble? I don't think so! Even if free cash flow is insufficient for 100 years, the company should still be fine.

自由現金流量為負，只表示負債會增加。
負債增加不表示負債比會惡化，
這個例子負債從2萬元增加到200萬元，可是負債比都僅17%。

A negative free cash flow indicates an increase in liabilities, but it does not necessarily mean that the debt ratio will worsen. In the given example, although the debt increased from $20,000 to $2 million, the debt ratio was only 17%. This means that even if the free cash flow remained negative for 100 years, the company would still not face any issues.

自由現金流量長期為負的公司很多，而且都是偉大的公司，
波克夏、台積電、鴻海就是，股價已漲了上萬倍。
這3家偉大的公司主張自由現金流量的人竟然認為會倒，
實在可笑。
同學哪天有機會跟老巴吃午餐時請務必幫我問一個問題
「波克夏會不會倒？」
或者坐火車碰到張忠謀時問他「台積電會不會周轉不靈？」
小謀必定翻你白眼。

Many great companies have experienced negative free cash flow for extended periods of time, including Berkshire Hathaway, TSMC, and Hon Hai, all of which have seen their stock prices increase tens of thousands of times. It is ridiculous to think that these three great companies would fall because of negative free cash flow. If you had the chance to have lunch with Mr. Buffett, you could ask him the question, "Will Berkshire fall?" Similarly, if you ask Morris Chang on a train, "Will TSMC have cash flow problems?" He will definitely roll his eyes at you.

相反的，TEF、GPS、TPR三家公司這幾年FCF皆正而穩定，
但股價大跌80%。

On the contrary, the three companies TEF, GPS, and TPR have all had positive and stable free cash flow in recent years. However, their stock prices have plummeted by 80%.

FCF為正股價仍可能大跌；
為負也不致負債比惡化，
顯見自由現金流量這個指標沒用。

A company can have a positive FCF, yet experience a sharp decline in its stock price. Conversely, a negative FCF may not necessarily lead to a deterioration in the company's debt ratio. Hence, the free cash flow indicator may not always be a reliable measure of a company's financial health.

這個同學又繼續拗，
同學問問題的步驟就3個：一嗆聲，二拗，三人身攻擊。
一開始只是有個想法未成熟就來嗆聲「你不對，我才對」。
被駁倒死不承認，二拗，
再被駁倒，三就人身攻擊「你不懂啦，沒有料！」

The classmate continued to argue using three steps: making a loud statement, stubbornly arguing, and attacking others personally. Initially, the classmate had an immature idea and made a loud statement, and refused to admit their mistake even when proven wrong. Then, they persisted in arguing stubbornly, and when that didn't work, they resorted to personal attacks, such as saying "You don't understand anything" or "You are ignorant!"

這位同學拗「不僅看自由現金流量，還要加看營業活動現金流量」，
加看營業活動一樣沒用！
從講稿9/21的例子來看，
雅新、SAY在出事之前的營業活動流量都是正數。
博達營業活動的應收帳款、存貨科目都可造假，
顯示仍然是無用的指標。

The student argued, "We should not only focus on free cash flow but also consider the cash flow from operating activities." However, adding operational activities is pointless. As evidenced by lecture 9/21, companies like Yahsin and SAY had positive cash flow from operating activities before their scandals were exposed. Additionally, companies like Procom can manipulate their accounts receivables and inventory accounts. Therefore, operational activities are not a reliable indicator.

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以上3點都不如看ROE、配息率與盈再率，
只要高配息+低盈再率就保證財報不會有問題！
有人問我選股只按盈再表嗎？
是的，而且通常只看表頭，
表底下和右邊的表格還很少拉過來看。
怎麼可能這樣簡單？
是的，就這樣簡單，
我們有二位同學按按盈再表就移民澳洲去了。
我的方法就是簡單到令人不敢置信，
簡單找到讓你學不會！
為何簡單卻學不會？
因為你不敢置信啊！

The three aforementioned points are inferior to monitoring ROE, dividend payout ratio, and PR%. A high dividend payout and low PR% guarantee no financial report issues! When asked if I select stocks only based on On's table, I confirmed that I typically only look at the table header. I rarely refer to the tables below and to the right. It may seem too simple, but that's all there is to it. Two of our classmates immigrated to Australia after using On's table. My method is so simple that it may be hard to believe, making it easy to learn but difficult to master. Why is it easy to learn but hard to master? Because you are too skeptical!

為何只要高配息+低盈再率就保證財報不會有問題？
高配息等於老公每個月都把薪水交給老婆。
低盈再率表示藏私房錢的管道都被堵住了，
請問老公如何搞鬼？

Why is it that a high dividend payout ratio and low PR% guarantee that there will be no issues with the financial report? A high dividend payout ratio is equivalent to the husband giving all his wages to his wife every month. A low PR% means that the channels for hiding private funds have been blocked. How did the husband engage in fraudulent activities?

2012年傳出檢調去搜索漢唐，說董事長掏空3億元，
事發之後網路上一堆人放馬後砲說財報哪裡又哪裡有問題，
之前未曾聽聞他們說過財報有問題。
當時我是第一個在事發之後跳出來說漢唐被掏空但問題不嚴重，
股票不會變成壁紙。
為什麼敢如此打包票？人皆可殺還出來保證？

In 2012, it was reported that the authorities conducted a search of United Integrated Services (2404.TW), alleging that the chairman had embezzled NT$300 million. After the incident, many people on the internet criticized various aspects of the company's financial reports, but I had never heard them mention any issues prior to that. At that time, I was the first to come forward and state that although United Integrated Services had been embezzled, the problem was not severe enough to render the stock value worthless. Why was I able to make such a guarantee when everyone else was skeptical? Would I risk my reputation to come forward like this?

很簡單，漢唐盈再率僅20%，配息率90%，
怎麼可能有問題。
果然後來股價從34元跌到27元而已，我算的便宜價29元。

The PR% of United Integrated Services is only 20%, and its dividend payout ratio is as high as 90%. Therefore, it is unlikely that there would be a problem. Although the stock price dropped from NT$34 to NT$27, it is still close to the cheap price of NT$29 that I calculated.

2016年群聯也被查出作假帳，
我又第一個跳出來跟大家講問題不大！

In 2016, fraudulent accounts were discovered at Phison Electronics (8299.TW). Nonetheless, I was the first to reassure everyone that the problem was not significant.

很簡單，盈再率15%，配息率60%。
股價也僅從事發之前270元跌到204元，便宜價230元。

Simply put, the PR% is 15% and the dividend payout ratio is 60%. Despite the stock price falling from NT$270 to NT$204, my calculated cheap price was NT$230.

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有人分析股票喜歡洋洋灑灑列出一堆指標，
以為這樣比較專業。
在我看來，那反而是外行，表示不曉得很多指標沒用。

Some individuals analyzing stocks prefer to list out numerous indicators, thinking that it makes them appear more professional. However, in my opinion, this approach indicates a lack of expertise, as they fail to recognize that many indicators are useless.

選股不用看毛利率、負債比大家都知道了嗎？
同學皆點頭稱是，
可是回到家裡自己分析股票，寫部落格，
又在那邊高毛利、低負債，
每次都這樣，上課都講過了，可是回到家就全部還給我。
幸好！我不用把學費還給他。
雜誌報導的投資素人，只要說他中碳幾年賺幾倍的
通通是我的學生，沒有例外，
奇怪的是，明明是我的學生可是絕口不提盈再率，
為什麼盈再率讓大家那麼難以啟齒呢？
因為它比較台嗎？
這是我教這堂課最大的挫折感！

When selecting stocks, monitoring the gross margin and debt ratio is not necessary, as I advised my students. All of them nodded in agreement. However, upon analyzing stocks and writing blogs at home, some of them focused on high gross profit and low debt. These students seemed to have ignored my previous teachings. Thankfully, I am not obligated to refund their tuition fees. In fact, I noticed that many individuals who claimed to have earned significant profits in China Steel Chemicals were actually my former students. However, it is odd that they failed to mention PR%. Perhaps, it is because PR% is not commonly discussed in Taiwan. This has been the biggest frustration in teaching this class!

我的學生去外面開課自立門戶，不承認是我的學生，
還把抄襲盈再率公式改為資本支出/營業現金流，
判斷式也是不可大於200%。
這等於把愛因斯坦的公式 e = mc^2 改成
X = YZ^2 然後說相對論是他發明的一樣，
這就是剽竊！
引用或改寫別人的觀念、公式和明牌而未註明出處者即為小偷。

One of my students, Wei, started teaching his own class outside and denied being my student. He even modified the PR% formula to "capital expenditures/operating cash flow," using the same criteria of not exceeding 200%. It's equivalent to altering Einstein's formula e = mc^2 to X = YZ^2 and claiming to have discovered relativity. This constitutes plagiarism!
Anyone who quotes or modifies someone else's ideas, formulas, or stock tips without acknowledging the source is a thief.

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講稿 11/21：不會變的公司
Lecture 11/22 Durable

我們選股有三大條件：
第一是ROE要穩定。
第二要能配得出現金，
最近一年盈再率小於80%，
最近3年配息率大於40%。
還有第三大條件買不會變、可以好很久的公司。
投資一家公司都希望可以維持高ROE，
長期抱下來才有複利效果，賺到最大錢。
不過在買股票的當時都覺得很好，
抱個一年半載之後，卻變得越來越差，
投資人會問到底什麼樣的公司才能好很久？

We have three main criteria for stock selection:
The first is that the ROE must be stable.
The second is that the company must have the ability to distribute cash dividends, with a PR% in the most recent year that is less than 80%, and a dividend payout ratio in the last three years that is greater than 40%.
The third condition is to purchase a company that will not change and can last for a long time. Investors hope to maintain a high ROE for the company they invest in, and to benefit from compound interest over the long term to maximize profits.
However, even if a stock appears promising at the time of purchase, it can deteriorate over time. Investors may wonder what type of company can remain successful for a prolonged period.

研究員拜訪公司，公司能夠告訴我們的
頂多未來3到6個月的出貨狀況，
可是我們想要知道的不僅3到6個月，
而是3-5年之後公司會不會如現在所預料的這麼好？

When analysts visit companies, the company may provide information about shipment status for the next 3 to 6 months at most. However, what we really need to know is not just the short-term outlook, but whether the company will perform as well as we anticipate in the next 3 to 5 years.

研究員除了拜訪公司之外還會去做產業研究，
從產業裡找出哪些是未來的明星產業，
若該產業最具發展潛力，裡頭的公司應該會快速成長，
可是卻常常發現，產業前景看好
跟公司會不會賺錢其實沒有必然的關係！
過去大家曾看好太陽能、面板、DRAM這些產業
後來發展趨勢跟當時所預料的其實差不多，
當初認為電視機和電腦螢幕都將換成面板，趨勢的確如此，
可是沒想到做面板的公司沒幾家賺錢。
這一點在年報上巴菲特也提到，
祂小時候萊特兄弟駕飛機飛越大西洋，
當時大家認為飛機工業的產值將變得很大，
果然如此，可是製造飛機的公司能獲利者寥寥可數。

In addition to visiting companies, analysts also conduct industry research to identify the future star industries. If an industry has significant potential, the companies within that industry should experience rapid growth. However, I have often noticed that a bright future for an industry does not necessarily guarantee profitability for the companies within it.
In the past, industries such as solar, LCD panels, and DRAM were highly optimistic. While the industry trends aligned with expectations at the time, few companies were able to turn a profit. For instance, we believed that both TV and computer screens would be replaced by panels, which turned out to be true. Nevertheless, only a few companies could make a profit from this trend.
Mr. Buffett addressed this issue in his annual report. He mentioned how the Wright brothers flew across the Atlantic when he was a kid, and at that time, people believed that the output value of the aircraft industry would be enormous. While the industry followed the expected trend, few companies were able to achieve profitability.

相反的那些能夠好很久的公司，
可口可樂、嬌生、中碳、大統益的產品都還蠻無聊的，
可樂的市場會不會快速成長？
不會，但可以維持高ROE。
嬌生做衛浴用品洗髮精、爽身粉會不會顯著成長？
也不會，卻能維持高ROE。
大統益做沙拉油的也不會大幅成長，一樣有高ROE。

In contrast, companies that have the potential to last a long time, such as Coca-Cola (KO), Johnson and Johnson (JNJ), China Steel Chemical, and TTET Union products, may not be as exciting.
For instance, the market for Coca-Cola may not experience significant growth, but the company can maintain a high ROE. Similarly, Johnson and Johnson's shampoo and talcum powder may not have significant growth, but the company can maintain a high ROE. TTET Union's salad oil may not experience a significant increase in demand, but the company can still maintain a high ROE.

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巴菲特昭示「能夠好很久的原則排除快速變遷的產業」
(2007年報，波克夏年報最精華的一段)
這是巴菲特改變我思想最大的地方。
我原先是外資電子股研究員，
當年問我怎麼選股？我一定會說，
從未來最有發展潛力的3C產品去挑就對了，
巴菲特告訴我這個想法是錯的！

In his 2007 annual report, the most insightful section of Berkshire Hathaway's annual reports, Mr. Buffett stated that "Our criterion of 'enduring' causes us to rule out companies in industries prone to rapid and continuous change." This idea completely changed the way I used to think.
As a former electronics analyst for a foreign securities company, I would have suggested investing in the most promising 3C (computers, communications, and consumer electronics) products. However, Mr. Buffett made me realize that this approach was flawed.

選股的重點不在看未來會如何，
而在確定現在會不會變。

The key to stock selection lies not in predicting the future, but in determining whether the current dominance will change.

何謂不會變的公司？
1. 產品不會變
2. 產業地位不會變 (A咖、龍頭股)
3. 想3秒鐘就了解的公司

What is a durable company?
1. Products that are irreplaceable
2. An unshakable industry leader
3. Easily understandable in 3 seconds

不會變的公司等於巴菲特所說公司護城河，
和我的「魔法書」好學生特質都是同樣意思。

A company that won't change is equivalent to what Buffett called company's moat, and it shares the same meaning as the "Magic Book" good student traits I mentioned.

1. 產品不會變
這是一家公司可以好很久非常重要的特徵，
在電子股上特別明顯。
光碟片在CD-R時代中環跟錸德非常賺錢，
後來變DVD之後居然虧損累累，
這是電子股討厭的地方，一旦產品變了之後公司獲利就變了樣。

1. Irreplaceable products
This is a crucial characteristic for companies that can endure for a long time, particularly in the electronics industry.
For instance, CMC Magnetics (2323.TW) and Ritek (2349.TW) were highly profitable during the CD-R era, but suffered significant losses after the market shifted to DVDs.
This highlights the vulnerability of electronics stocks, where a shift in product can have a significant impact on a company's profitability.

現在我們最關心的，宏達電可以好很久嗎？
...抱歉，要改一下，宏達電可再好起來嗎？
變化太快講義來不及更改。

What we are most concerned about now is whether HTC can turnaround?
...Sorry, I need to make a change: Can HTC become good again?
The changes are happening too fast to update the handouts.

這個問題要怎麼研究？就看它做什麼產品？
手機，手機會不會變？
很會變，宏達電可否好很久有很大問號！
不僅宏達電，幾年前聽到Nokia也曾赫赫有名，
沒想到後來被賣掉了。
三星也很危險，Note 7手機爆炸，「建達出奇蛋」。

How can we approach this issue? Does it depend on the type of product the company produces? For example, the cell phone industry is constantly changing. This makes it difficult for HTC to maintain a strong position in the long run. This is not only true for HTC, as even Nokia was a major player a few years ago but was eventually sold. Samsung is also not immune to challenges, as evidenced by the explosive Note 7 phone, which turned out to be a kind of "Kinder Surprise".

蘋果iPhone也越賣越差，變不出新花樣，
在中國市場每況愈下。
蘋果電腦、三星、Nokia、宏達電這4家公司
不是我們會想買的股票，因為產品會變。

Apple's iPhone has been experiencing a decline in sales in the Chinese market, and its new features are lacking, making it less attractive to consumers. Companies such as Apple, Samsung, Nokia, and HTC are not our preferred stocks as their products are prone to changes.

有人問最近巴菲特不是買了蘋果電腦嗎？
用同樣的方法選股，選出來的股票
70%一樣，30%有差異，很正常，
因每個人的知識背景有差異，見仁見智。
老巴以前認為蘋果會變，現在則覺得不會變，
對同一家公司看法改變也很常見。
蘋果電腦我認為是會變的公司。

Someone mentioned that Mr. Buffett recently purchased a large amount of Apple stock. Using the same method for selecting stocks, it is normal for 70% of the criteria to be the same and 30% to be different. This is because everyone has a different knowledge background and different opinions. While Buffett once thought that Apple would change, he now believes that it will remain durable. It is also common to change one's perception of the same company. Personally, I believe that Apple is a company that will continue to evolve.

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