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請問IBM -Q3常利大幅下滑是否宜買進
請問IBM -Q3常利大幅下滑是否宜買進
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這支現在可以買嗎 ?
同學最喜歡問我,
這支現在可以買嗎 ?


這是在問股價,問買了會不會馬上漲 ?
因若買了即下跌,就不是現在可以買。


我不知道
這支買了之後會不會馬上漲 ?


可是我知道
只要每支股票都是高ROE,便宜買進,
就保證是能維持高ROE的投資組合,
長期下來可以賺到大錢 !!


不要股價跌了就說公司變壞了,
可能只是買高了而已。


多點耐心,等股價漲上來。
短線幾支股票賠錢很正常,
巴菲特買特易購賠了40%,
可是整體績效仍然很好。
如何增強耐心 ?
控制持股比例和多種果樹。


我買美股首先確定好持股比例,
然夠便宜就買了,完全不管會不會漲。
其中雖然有些個股表現不理想,
可是總績效是1年半23%,還算不錯。


我打算買100支美股,
賠最慘的vale跌了36%,
占總績效0.36%,小數點而已。
這就是多種果樹的好處。
所以問我:這支現在可以買嗎 ?

我的回答都是「控制好持股比例,個股請自行調整」。
同學笑我,這是萬無一失的答案,
我說,既然是萬無一失,為何不照做呢 ?


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謝謝高見
謝謝高見控制好持股比率
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IBM's revenue growth has been downright anemic, but that's OK
IBM's revenue growth hasn't recovered from the Great Recession. From fiscal 2009 to 2013, the company only grew its top line by 1% --less than the rate of inflation during that period. Investors should look for revenue growth to continue to grow sluggishly or not at all. Key here is IBM's sale of its x86 server business to Lenovo for $2.3 billion.
The divestiture gives IBM the potential to concentrate on higher-margin businesses (more on that later), but will decrease revenue. The company said the business delivered approximately $4.6 billion in revenue in the last fiscal year, over 4.6% of IBM's near-$100 billion revenue haul.
For what it's worth, IBM said the business was only breakeven on a pre-tax basis. It is apparent the company is looking to shed low-margin businesses to focus on higher-margin cloud and enterprise computing solutions.
The cloud is working for IBM
IBM's continued transition to the cloud business appears to be going well. After buying SoftLayer in 2013 for $2 billion, the company quickly transitioned customers to the platform. The purchase and subsequent moves have paid off: IBM's cloud-based revenue jumped 86% in its last quarter from the year prior.

In fact, the company has taken the cloud services world by storm. Gartner upgraded IBM in its May "magic quadrant" report to visionary from niche player based on completeness of vision. The company also increased in Gartner's other ratings classification: ability to execute.
IBM hasn't reported a cloud computing division revenue figure so far in 2014. But it has noted that cloud-based revenue was on track to be 50% higher in 2014 than 2013. Since cloud-based revenue in 2013 was $4.4 billion, IBM should gross more than $6 billion in cloud-based revenue in this fiscal year.
Each share's increasing value
During that same period (2009-2013), IBM increased its net income by roughly 5.3% per year. That's better than its revenue growth, and proof the company is investing in higher-margin businesses and/or cutting costs prudently. However, during that period, earnings per share increased nearly 50%, or 10.4% a year. The reason: rapid share buybacks. The chart below gives proper context:


Source: IBM's 10-Ks. All figures are in millions. Left Y-axis denotes dollar figures and right Y-axis are shares outstanding.
Here's where IBM's shareholder-focused management comes into play. As you can see, the company has engaged in a rather aggressive capital return policy. Since 2009, it has given back over $80 billion to shareholders, with $64 billion coming via share repurchases. The end result is a company that has reduced its shares outstanding by nearly 18%.
A reduced share count helps income investors in two distinct ways. First, a company can increase its per-share payout faster than total dividends paid due to fewer shares outstanding. Fewer shares also help EPS growth by lowering the total number of shares outstanding.
sourse:http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/10/01/3-reasons-why-ibm-is-a-top-dividend-stock.aspx
Anders Bylund: There's a lot of green to be found inside Big Blue. In fact, IBM shares haven't looked this attractive to long-term investors in the last twenty years.
Let's be clear: IBM shares are trading at mouth-watering prices because the business is under pressure. CEO Ginni Rometty is reshaping her company in a radical way, peeling off low-margin hardware operations in favor of a fresh software-and-services focus. The long-term vision is a leaner, meaner IBM where each dollar of revenue makes a bigger impact on the bottom line. Along the way, investors are panicking over lower sales volumes and the occasional hiccup. That's what happened in October.
Soft September sales led to disappointing revenue and earnings for the entire quarter. Share prices plunged 11% in three days, and haven't recovered in the several weeks since. That sudden drop unlocked a couple of treasures for those who believe that IBM's troubles are temporary:
  • Big Blue's price to earnings ratio hasn't ventured below 12 times trailing earnings since the 2008-2009 economic crisis.
  • IBM's effective dividend yield jumped to 2.7% -- a level not seen since 1995.

IBM Normalized P/E Ratio (TTM) data by YCharts
In other words, this knee-jerk market reaction unveiled some of the strongest dividend yields in IBM's history alongside a bargain-basement valuation. I believe that Rometty's vision will eventually lead to a stronger and more sustainable IBM. If you agree, there may not have been a better time than right now to buy IBM shares in the last two decades -- especially if you're interested in IBM's soaring dividend yield.
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Let's be clear: IBM shares are trading at mouth-watering prices because the business is under pressure.依照mike的策略是每支 1%, 但是非常喜歡的又有信心的就分批買進吧, 單支以不超過總投資 5 - 10 % 為上限(看個人舒適度)!!! ibm 股價會跌到多便宜實在很難講...至少你買的成本不會比巴菲特高!

International Business Machines Corp. (NYSE: IBM) was SLIGHTLY HIGHER at 70.478 million shares and was listed as being worth $13.4 billion with its last earnings report. Despite the earnings warning from IBM, Buffett had already telegraphed ahead of time that the IBM stake was growing. Last quarter it was 70.173 million shares, up from 68.355 million shares in March and up from first being added. The IBM stake was worth $13.4 billion at the end of September, but the mid-November value of IBM was down almost 14% from the end of September.


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一直不斷再修正自己的投資策略,大致如下:假設有100萬美金,目標100間公司,每間公司可投資金額為1萬美金。
進場依據:
1.GDP高點(相對高點):
   出現買訊(預期報酬15%以上):先進3000元美金就好。有點低可以再補。
2.GDP低點(相對低點)(沒有遍地是黃金):
  出現訊(預期報酬15%以上):先進5000元美金就好。等有再便宜之時再將5000美金買滿。
3.GDP超低點(遍地是黃金,有人跳樓~~):
全梭哈啦啦~~~~~
公司先選擇:
1.ROE大於15%且很穩定
2.ROE大於15%且穩定成長
3.ROE大於15%不穩定
注意:
盈再表有時按出來時預期報酬率大於20%,但隔不到幾天既然變貴價,這時有可能是因為財報更新速度不及造成,所以GDP高點時按出淑價要注意一下財報是否有缺
投資變的好無趣,但是也是最保險的方式!
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IBM Doing Exactly What Warren Buffett Wanted
Dec. 22, 2014 5:36 PM ET | by Tim McAleenan Jr. | about: ibm | includes: brk.a, brk.b
Summary
  • Many critics of IBM have been focusing on the company's difficulty transitioning to the cloud, and poor stock price performance this year.
  • The company, however, has spent $19.2 billion repurchasing its stock in the past year, and has grown earnings by a double-digit amount over the course of 2014.
  • Warren Buffett specifically desired strong buybacks at low prices in his letter to shareholders, and his desire has been coming to fruition with IBM over the course of 2014.

Many of you are already familiar with Warren Buffett's declaration in his letter to shareholders of Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE:BRK.A) (NYSE:BRK.B) that he hopes the price of IBM Corp. (NYSE:IBM) stock languishes in the market while he holds it. To wit, Buffett specifically said:
The logic is simple: If you are going to be a net buyer of stocks in the future, either directly with your own money or indirectly (through your ownership of a company that is repurchasing shares), you are hurt when stocks rise.
You benefit when stocks swoon. Emotions, however, too often complicate the matter: Most people, including those who will be net buyers in the future, take comfort in seeing stock prices advance. These shareholders resemble a commuter who rejoices after the price of gas increases, simply because his tank contains a day's supply.
Charlie and I don't expect to win many of you over to our way of thinking - we've observed enough human behavior to know the futility of that - but we do want you to be aware of our personal calculus.
Most IBM shareholders are aware of how the company's stock price has gone down from $199 in April to $160 today, and consider that some kind of indictment on the company's long-term prospects. What I find interesting, though, is that IBM's own history proves the point that Buffett made: the truly long-term shareholders of IBM really do benefit from a lower share price.
The last time that IBM's share price languished like this occurred during the financial crisis years of 2008 and 2009. In 2007, it traded at a high of $120 per share. In the coming two years, the recession-inspired prices in the stock market enabled the company to retire about 300 million shares by the time 2010 came around. At the time, it probably didn't seem fun for IBM shareholders to see the price of the stock fall from $120 to under $70.
Yet, if you step back and study what actually happened when IBM retired those 300 million shares at languishing prices, the company managed to increase its earnings per share from $7.18 in 2007 to $11.52 in 2010. The decline in the price of IBM stock was the friend of long-term shareholders, because the buyback helped increase profits by 60% cumulatively.
In the past year, a new act in the same play is unfolding before our very eyes, as IBM is again using a moment of low stock prices to retire a significant amount of stock that is having an outsized impact on earnings per share growth. The conversation about Intel during the past year has generally focused on the price of the stock that has fallen from $190 to $160, the management team's abandonment of the $20 earnings per share target in 2015, and general concern about IBM's transition to the cloud.
What has gone unobserved is this: IBM has repurchased $19.2 billion worth of its own stock in the past year, and paid out $4.2 billion in dividends. The company makes $17.1 billion in net profits, so it has borrowed $5 billion in the past year to retire an unusually high amount of stock, based on the premise that retiring stock purchased at 9x profits will create extra value for shareholders in the long run.
IBM has reduced its share count from over 1 billion to 985 million, and this has enabled the company to grow its earnings per share from $14.94 in 2013 to $16.95 in 2014. That is what has gone unnoticed during the constant ridiculing of IBM this year: the company has grown its earnings per share by 13.45%, and this high growth rate would not have been possible if the valuation of IBM had not become so attractive (as an aside, you should note that many stock screeners state an earnings per share for IBM below the $16.95 figure because they calculate their quotes based on weighted average shares outstanding over the previous ninety days, rather than the most current share count).
For historical perspective, the last time IBM traded below 10x earnings was in early 2009. If you had purchased shares of the stock at that point in time, you would have compounded your wealth at a rate of 12.35% in the following five years. The shares are at approximately what Warren Buffett wanted: they are languishing at a price that understates IBM's long-term earnings power, and the management team is taking advantage of that fact to buy a significant amount of stock. The earnings per share of IBM jump by the greatest amount in years like 2009 and 2014, when the valuation is incredibly attractive around the 10x earnings range. While IBM continues to remain unfashionable, earnings per share continue to grow at a double-digit rate. Don't question whether the Oracle of Omaha has lost his golden touch just yet.
Disclosure: The author is long IBM. The author wrote this article themselves, and it expresses their own opinions. The author is not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). The author has no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.
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話說近來公司正在跟I公司談Cloud大數據案子…




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IBM's revenue growth has been downright anemic, but that's OK
IBM's revenue growth hasn't recovered from ...

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話說近來公司正在跟I公司談Cloud大數據案子…



麻煩lance兄的公司多多照顧本公司的生意. 謝謝.
IBM股東敬上
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最近再加碼 ibm...同學煩請貴公司預算提高多點!
ibm 歷史悠久, 產品好+服務好啊!

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Joseph桑真客氣  我也是這麼想的 ..XD

每年看到I公司搶錢的各種報價...奇檬子都很   

同學會Joseph桑點到後,按按盈再表,也當起小股東,


現在看到I公司又來搶錢,都希望多搶一點。

有趣的是跟I公司同仁聊,他們不覺得自己公司股價便宜。

看到他們來推Cloud Big Data Solution,覺得至少有跟上技術潮流。
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Why Warren Buffett Is Excited He Lost $1 Billionhttp://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/12/27/why-warren-buffett-is-excited-he-lost-1-billion.aspx

Excited and delighted
When Buffett discussed Berkshire's IBM stake in the 2011 Letter to Shareholders he said:


Today, IBM has 1.16 billion shares outstanding, of which we own about 63.9 million or 5.5%. Naturally, what happens to the company's earnings over the next five years is of enormous importance to us. Beyond that, the company will likely spend $50 billion or so in those years to repurchase shares. Our quiz for the day: What should a long-term shareholder, such as Berkshire, cheer for during that period?
I won't keep you in suspense. We should wish for IBM's stock price to languish throughout the five years.







Buffett's closing thoughts
Buffett concluded his remarks in 2011 by noting:
Charlie and I don't expect to win many of you over to our way of thinking – we've observed enough human behavior to know the futility of that – but we do want you to be aware of our personal calculus ... In the end, the success of our IBM investment will be determined primarily by its future earnings. But an important secondary factor will be how many shares the company purchases with the substantial sums it is likely to devote to this activity.









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這支觀查了半年  昨天終於入手買了
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welcome to the club, 價格買得不錯歐!
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http://www.ibillionaire.me/securities/109/international-business-machines-corp/IBM
根據ibillionare 網站資訊, 目前價位已經低於幾位大鱷成本
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