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§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-22 09:52

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§@ªÌ: polyperry    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-23 08:34

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So far, Ackman has racked up millions in paper losses on his bet. He has yet to break even on his short. He's said that he will take this short to "the end of the earth."


§@ªÌ: joe052    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-23 08:40

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§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-23 08:59

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§@ªÌ: Josephchu0616    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-23 10:26

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You know the Herbalife story by now, right?
Cliff notes:  Well known hedge fund manager (Bill Ackman) announces a monstrous short position in $HLF (no positions here) and presents a 300+ slide presentation on his thesis.   Stock gets annihilated, then bounces hard and continues to rally as others, including another well known hedge fund manager (Dan Loeb), come to the defense of Herbalife.   Drama seems to culminate for the time being with a one-for-the-ages CNBC call-in showdown between the hedge fund short and another even more well known hedge fund manager (Carl Icahn) who is long.
And then there was tonight:  Icahn files his 13D showing a massive synthetic stake in Herbalife, and throws in the little tidbit:
¡§The Reporting Persons intend to have discussions with management of the Issuer regarding the business and strategic alternatives to enhance shareholder value, such as a recapitalization or a going-private transaction.¡¨
*gulp*.   It¡¦s ON like Donkey Kong.   Anyone who doubted Carl Icahn¡¦s penchant for vendettas severely underestimated him:  the data shows that Icahn accumulated the vast majority of his position AFTER the CNBC showdown with Ackman.   He did it through options combos:  Icahn bought calls and sold puts.   From the filing, he owns a total economic interest in 14,015,151 shares, which is about 13% of Herbalife¡¦s outstanding shares.  But Icahn doesn¡¦t own all stock ¡V he owns:
-combos (equivalent to a long stock position: long calls, short puts, Jan 28th 2015 expiration) on 8,311,738 shares
-combos (equivalent to a long stock position: long calls, short puts, May 10th 2013 expiration) on 3,230,606shares
which leaves 2,472,807 shares of HLF common stock.
If you read the 13D, you can see the dates of the transactions, and the complicated mess of entities Icahn controls.*   According to my wicked quick spreadsheet math, his cost basis on the common is $34.69, and he bought 1,672,807 of the shares in the days before Christmas, 2012, with the remaining 800k shares being bought on Jan 28th/29th 2013,  AFTER the CNBC showdown with Ackman.   All of the options trades were done after the Ackman CNBC battle ¡V from Jan 28th through Feb 14th (today).
So are you with me so far?  Can you picture Icahn hanging up the phone after that CNBC tete-a-tete and screaming, Rambo-esque: NOTHING IS OVER!
§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-23 10:47

On Jul 23, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Perry Kuo wrote:

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§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-23 10:55

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§@ªÌ: polyperry    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-23 11:25

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Bill Ackman is a long term value investor, taking advantage of short term downward moves in prices. He is particularly successful at special situations investments. William Ackman¡¦s Pershing Square has a very concentrated portfolio. Bill Ackman¡¦s returns have displayed option-like characteristics in 2009 and 2010. His General Growth Properties investment is almost as big as John Paulson¡¦s subprime shorts. In May 2009, he recommended GGP stock at the Ira Sohn Conference and the stock returned more than 1000% since then

. As a result of that investment, Ackman had a great 2010, returning 29.7%. Bill Ackman's Pershing Square lost 1.1% in 2011 but gained 12.4% in 2012, 9.7% in 2013. Bill Ackman is displaying amazing returns so far in 2014. His flagship fund is up 22.1 through the end of May. Bill Ackman's net worth is north of $1.5 billion and Pershing Square had around $12 billion in AUM in early 2014.


Read more at http://www.insidermonkey.com/hedge-fund/pershing+square/13/#qpd55lY2Fx28x5Lc.99


§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-23 11:34

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§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-24 06:46

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§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2014-7-24 21:57

On Jul 24, 2014, at 9:47 PM, Perry Kuo  wrote:

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§@ªÌ: ashely200809    ®É¶¡: 2015-8-6 21:48

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Herbalife Ltd.(HLF - Snapshot Report) recently reported better-than-expected second-quarter 2015 results on the back of higher sales in China and prudent expense management. The company also raised its earnings guidance for 2015, despite currency headwinds.

This weight management and nutritional products company delivered second-quarter adjusted earnings of $1.24 per share, which beat the Zacks Consensus Estimate of $1.13 by 9.7%. Earnings were also above the guidance range of $1.05¡V$1.15 per share.
Adjusted earnings, however, declined 20% year over year due to currency headwinds, as approximately 80% of its business is spread overseas. Second quarter adjusted earnings were negatively impacted by 41 cents due to currency headwinds, inclusive of the devaluation of the Venezuelan bolivar.

Herbalife Ltd. Inc. - Earnings Surprise | FindTheBest




Net sales of $1.162 billion declined 11% from the prior-year period due to currency headwinds and a 5% decline in volumes. Sales however beat the Zacks Consensus Estimate of $1.148 billion by 1.2%. The year-over-year decline was within the company¡¦s expectation of a decline of 10.5% to 13.5%. The volume decline was also within the expected range of 4.5% to 7.5%. Excluding currency headwinds, sales grew 1% year over year as against the company¡¦s guidance range of flat to down 3%.
Regionally, Europe, the Middle East and Africa reported 4% volume growth backed by the company¡¦s enhanced marketing plan. China continued to outperform, recording impressive volume point growth of 38%. However, volumes declined in North America, Asia Pacific, Mexico and South & Central America by 9%, 15%, 5% and 16%, respectively.
In the second quarter, the company saw volume point trends improve in three of the four key markets most impacted by its marketing plan changes - the U.S., Mexico and Brazil. In fact, the company is seeing sequential improvements in key metrics in these markets and remains encouraged by the positive trends.
Third-Quarter 2015 Guidance
Herbalife expects sales to decline in the range of 7%- 10% and volumes to decrease 1% to 4% in the third quarter. Venezuela currency movements will have a negative impact of approximately 5 percentage points on net sales growth rate in the third quarter.

Organic sales (excluding Venezuelan currency devaluation) are expected to increase 1% - 4%. For the third quarter, the company expects adjusted earnings per share in the range of $1.00 to $1.10, which includes an unfavorable currency impact of approximately 40 cents per share, inclusive of approximately 13 cents resulting from Venezuela currency movements. Excluding currency impact, adjusted earnings are expected in the range of $1.40 to $1.50 per share.
Raised Full Year Earnings Guidance
Following better-than-expected second quarter 2015 results, improved volume trends and cost control measures, Herbalife raised its earnings guidance range for the full year. We note that this is the second time Herbalife has raised its earnings guidance in 2015.
The new guidance reflects the company¡¦s positive outlook for the near term, as a result of strategic decisions company taken to improve the business and tremendous leadership by all the senior sales leaders. The company anticipates that these important and effective changes will in turn improve volume growth later this year.
It now expects adjusted earnings in the range of $4.50 to $4.70, up from $4.30 to $4.60 per share. This includes currency headwinds of approximately $1.40 per share (higher from the previous guidance of $1.26 per share), inclusive of 45 cents for Venezuela currency movements (unchanged from the previous guidance). On a currency adjusted basis, earnings are expected in the range of $5.90 to $6.10 per share compared with $5.55 to $5.85 per share, guided previously.
However, the company has reiterated its net sales guidance range for 2015. Herbalife continues to expect sales to decline in the range of 6.5% to 9.5%. Currency headwinds will have a negative impact of approximately 1000 basis points on net sales growth rates in the full year, adjusted for Venezuela currency movements. Volumes are expected to be down 1% to 4%. Organic sales (excluding Venezuelan currency devaluation) are expected to decline 0.5% to increase 2.5%.
Ackman Impact
Herbalife¡¦s shares have been on a roller coaster ride as they are significantly impacted by allegations by activist investor William Bill Ackman, hedge fund manager of Pershing Square.
Ackman has been keeping an eye on Herbalife since Dec 2012, accusing it of being a pyramid scheme i.e. it employs deceptive marketing practices for improving business. Ackman believes that the nutrition clubs run by Herbalife's distributors focus on recruitment instead of selling products. (Read: Herbalife Faces Another Ackman Attack).
Ackman's back-to-back allegations have prompted investigations by the Securities and Exchange Commission, Federal Trade Commission, FBI and at least two state attorneys general. But none so far has taken any action. Herbalife, on its part, has been denying the charges since 2012 and has full confidence in its business model.
Herbalife is not the only company, which employs sales representatives to sell its products. Other multi-level marketing companies like Nu Skin Enterprises Inc. (NUS - Snapshot Report), USANA Health Sciences Inc. (USNA - Snapshot Report) and Avon Products Inc. (AVP - Analyst Report) also follow the same distribution model.

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§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2015-8-9 19:45

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Herbalife¡¦s stock soars amid hopes that FTC probe may finally be resolved

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Published: Feb 26, 2016 10:52 a.m. ET
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Shares on track for their 2nd-biggest percentage gain in another blow for Bill Ackman

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Herbalife Ltd.¡¦s stock rocketed higher in active trade Friday, after the company fanned hopes that a drawn-out probe by the Federal Trade Commission may be nearing an end.
The dietary and nutritional supplements company disclosed in a regulatory filing late Thursday: ¡§The company is currently in discussions with the FTC regarding a potential resolution of these matters.¡¨
Any resolution into the company¡¦s HLF, +20.52% methods of advertising, marketing, or sale of business opportunities, which was disclosed in March 2014, may come as a relief to shareholders, as it would give speculators betting against the stock one less thing to harp on. Billionaire hedge-fund manager Bill Ackman has gone to elaborate lengths, including publicly releasing a mini documentary, to push his belief that the company was operating a pyramid scheme.
The stock soared 23% in morning trade, putting it on course for its second-biggest one-day percentage gain since the company went public in December 2004. Volume in the first hour of the regular session was about 3.2 million shares, or nearly double the full-day average over the past 30 days, according to FactSet.
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Investors didn¡¦t seem to care that the company stated it couldn¡¦t predict the timing of any resolution, or if it would have a ¡§material adverse impact¡¨ on its operations.
¡§The possible range of outcomes include the filing by the FTC of a contested civil complaint, further discussions leading to a settlement which could include a monetary payment and other relief or the closure of these matters without action,¡¨ the company stated in the filing. ¡§At the present time, the company is unable to estimate a range of potential loss, if any, relating to these matters.
In an ironic twist, the resolution may finally vindicate Ackman, who has been pushing regulators to investigate the company, but he could still see any profits he made on his bearish bets dwindle as that resolution removes an overhang.
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William "Bill" Ackman, founder and chief executive officer of Pershing Square Capital Management LPThe shares have now run up over 30% since they closed at a nine-month low of $43.42 on Feb. 8, and have nearly doubled from their multiyear closing low of $29.70 on Jan. 20, 2015. They are now just 7% away from where they closed on March 12, 2014, when Herbalife said it received a Civil Investigative Demand from the FTC.
The company also reported late Thursday fourth-quarter results that beat profit and sales expectations, but cut its profit outlook for 2016, citing unfavorable currency market developments.



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Published: Mar 3, 2016 7:25 a.m. ET
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Herbalife Ltd.'s stock HLF, +0.37% plunged 13% in premarket trade Thursday, after the nutritional supplements seller disclosed that it overstated growth in active new members because of "database scripting errors." The company said in a regulatory filing that it didn't find the errors earlier because of "limited visibility" into the likely rate of change in the "Active New Member" metric it used. Among some of errors originally reported on Feb. 25, fourth-quarter year-over-year growth in worldwide active new members excluding China was corrected to 3.2% from 16.7%, in U.S. active new members was corrected to 30.7% from 71% and in Europe, Middle East and Africa was corrected to 17.7% from 44%. For the third quarter, North America active new member growth was corrected to 1.8% from 33%. "The company has taken corrective action regarding these issues," the company stated in the filing. Herbalife said the errors do not impact historical financial statements. Prior to Thursday's premarket selloff, the stock had climbed 5.2% year to date, while the S&P 500 had slipped 2.8%.


§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2016-7-15 21:39

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(Reuters) - Weight-loss products maker Herbalife Ltd will pay $200 million to avoid being classified as a pyramid scheme under a settlement with the Federal Trade Commission, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.
Herbalife shares jumped nearly 12 percent to $66.58 in premarket trading on Friday, and looked set to open at a near two-year high.
The settlement, expected to be announced Friday, will require the company to improve disclosures about its distributors, the people told the Journal.
The settlement will also tie distributor compensation to actual retail sales and force the company to collect receipts, according to the report.
The FTC opened a probe of Herbalife in 2014 following allegations by hedge fund manager William Ackman that it had a fraudulent business model that he compared to a pyramid scheme.
Ackman's Pershing Square Capital Management unveiled a $1 billion short bet against the company in 2012.
Ackman said on Thursday that he was still betting against Herbalife shares and that the FTC probe was unlikely to end well for the company as its business model is not built upon actual retail sales.
(Reporting by Sruthi Ramakrishnan in Bengaluru; Editing by Shounak Dasgupta)

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Carl Icahn is sticking with his Herbalife investment.
In a statement released on his website, Icahn said that he had not sold any of his shares in the nutrition company and in fact upped his position by 2.3 million shares on Friday.
This comes amid reports from the Wall Street Journal that the hedge fund titan was considering selling his large investment. In the statement, Icahn also took shots at fellow hedge fund manager Bill Ackman, who has been short Herbalife. The two have been famously in a feud over the opposing trade for around two years.



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Bill Ackman is the one backed into a corner on Herbalife (NYSE: HLF), Carl Icahn told CNBC a few short days after the billionaire raised his stake the embattled nutrition company by 2.3 million shares and denied reports he was looking to sell his large stake in the company.
"If anyone should feel boxed in, it's Ackman," Icahn said in an exclusive interview with CNBC.com.
"Ackman is an astute student of the market, as I am, and I think he would probably agree that there is very rarely if ever a company with the short interest as it was just announced of 27.2 million shares of the 92 million shares outstanding. Of the 92 million, there 20 percent to 25 percent that are closely held."
He added, "I don't believe any professional short-sellers, would ever take a position in a company with these numbers... As the old saying goes, fools will go where angels fear to tread."
With the comments, Icahn is hinting at a short squeeze in the stock, which StreetInsider discussed yesterday.

§@ªÌ: sammiiiiee    ®É¶¡: 2016-9-14 09:32

Icahn Is Seeking Approval to Own Up to 50% of Herbalife

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¡E Herbalife (NYSE:HLF) has raised its current-quarter adjusted profit forecast, expecting $0.95-$1.15 per share, compared with a previous forecast of $0.88-$1.08.
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§@ªÌ: King818    ®É¶¡: 2017-6-14 05:51

This is mission impossible.  Don't you think?  It is a big gamble to invest in HLF because of this new business model.
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In spite of a spirited performance in almost all of his holdings, Bill Ackman (Trades, Portfolio)¡¦s Pershing Square portfolio missed a gain year to date mainly on the rally of his short position in Herbalife Ltd. (NYSE:HLF), according to his June report.

Ackman¡¦s fund edge down 1.5% in gross performance and 2.3% in net of fees, as returns for June slid 6.2% gross and 6.3% net. With his exit from the battered Valeant Pharmaceuticals in the first quarter, all but one of his stocks rose year to date. The best performers were Nomad Foods Ltd. (NYSE:NOMD), Restaurant Brands International (NYSESR) and Platform Specialty Products Corp. (NYSEAH). His only stock to end the quarter down, Mondelez International Inc. (NASDAQ:MDLZ), declined 1.71%.

His single short bet Herbalife jumped 49% since the start of the year, reaching $71.73 per share at close of trading on July 3. The company, which sells nutritional shakes through multi-level marketing, this year continued its defense against Ackman¡¦s takedown four and a half years ago when he accused it of being a pyramid scheme.




§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2017-8-21 20:33

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Herbalife (NYSE:HLF) commences a self-tender offer to buy up to $600M of its common stock at $60 - 68 per share. For each share tendered, investors will receive a non-transferable contractual contingent value right (CVR) that will pay out if the company is acquired in a go-private transaction within two years. The tender offer will expire on September 19 at 5:00 pm ET.

¡E The company says it was recently in discussions with an investor (appears to be Carl Icahn) regarding a deal that could have led to the company going private. The talks ended on August 16.
¡E CFO John DeSimone says, ¡§Our Board and management team are committed to enhancing shareholder value and we believe today¡¦s action is just one more step in meeting this goal. We have already acquired during 2017 approximately $299 million of our shares on the open market under our current $1.5 billion share repurchase plan, and we believe this tender offer provides us an efficient way to buy back additional shares at an attractive price.¡¨
¡E In connection with the tender offer, the company inked an agreement with Mr. Icahn under which he (and his affiliates) agreed not to increase his ownership above 50% unless he goes all in and acquires 100%.

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§@ªÌ: mikeon88    ®É¶¡: 2017-8-23 19:07

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Herbalife has a plan that could squeeze hedge fund billionaire Bill Ackman

Bill Ackman would be right to be worried about his Herbalife short following the company's decision to do a Dutch auction.Reuters / Shannon Stapleton
Hedge fund billionaire Bill Ackman's short position in Herbalife is looking awfully shaky.
First and foremost, the company's surging stock ¡X up 11% over two days after a report that it held talks to go public ¡X has cost the Ackman-led Pershing Square Capital Management roughly $115 million on a mark-to-market basis, according to data compiled by financial analytics provider S3 Partners.
And Ackman personally could be in for more pain due to Herbalife's decision to execute a so-called "modified Dutch auction," through which the company will buy back $600 million of shares at $60 to $68 a pop. Beyond that, all shareholders who sell back their stock will get an addition cash payment if Herbalife is acquired at a higher price than the auction range sometime in the next two years.
The buyback of 8.8 million to 10 million shares could actually end up squeezing Ackman out of some of his shorts, which he started accumulating five years ago while accusing Herbalife of operating as a pyramid scheme. S3 estimates that if the Dutch auction is fully tendered, Ackman could face 3 million to 5 million share loan recalls. After all, he makes up roughly 75% of the company's short interest.
But it doesn't end there. Once the number of Herbalife shares available to be loaned plummets following the auction, the cost to borrow the company's stock will "increase dramatically" from around 2% into the 10% to 40% area, according to S3.
So to what extent will that hurt Ackman's wallet? He currently pays about $63,000 a day in financing costs, but that could skyrocket to $300,000 to $1.2 million a day once the auction is complete, S3 says.
Long story short, the Dutch auction will hit Ackman from two angles: loan recalls and financing costs.
Your move, Bill.

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Herbalife (HLF +10%) announces that ~6.7M shares of stock have been tendered pursuant to its offer to buy up to $600M of its common shares for $60 - 68. It expects to accept ~6.7M shares at a cash purchase price of $68, representing a total cash cost of ~$457.8M exclusive of fees and expenses.
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