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He defined his method in the 1986 letter to stockholders:

"These represent (A) reported earnings plus (B) depreciation, depletion, amortization, and certain other non-cash charges... less (C) the average annual amount of capitalized expenditures for plant and equipment, etc. that the business requires to fully maintain its long-term competitive position and its unit volume... Our owner-earnings equation does not yield the deceptively precise figures provided by GAAP, since must be a guess -- and one sometimes very difficult to make. Despite this problem, we consider the owner earnings figure, not the GAAP figure, to be the relevant item for valuation purposes... All of this points up the absurdity of the 'cash flow' numbers that are often set forth in Wall Street reports. These numbers routinely include plus -- but do not subtract ."

I arrived at the fair values of:
$637.97 in the baseline scenario (normal growth period then 5% long-term growth)
$1022.48in the optimistic scenario (strong growth period then 5% long-term growth)
$552.31 in the pessimistic scenario (weaker growth period then 1% long-term growth)

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§@ªÌ: King818    ®É¶¡: 2013-1-22 16:18

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§@ªÌ: King818    ®É¶¡: 2013-1-24 07:09

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§@ªÌ: polyperry    ®É¶¡: 2013-1-25 08:03

http://www.cultofmac.com/148988/warren-buffett-steve-jobs-asked-my-advice-on-apples-cash-but-didnt-take-it/
Warren Buffett: Steve Jobs Asked My Advice On Apple¡¦s Cash But Didn¡¦t Take It27




Ryan Faas (10:23 am PDT, Feb 27th 2012)


There have been a lot of ideas suggested for what Apple could do with its nearly $100 billion in cash. Some have been serious suggestions like companies that Apple could buy while others are a little more absurd but illustrate just how much money Apple¡¦s got.
Today, Warren Buffett revealed to viewers of CNBC¡¦s Squawk Box that Steve Jobs wasn¡¦t sure what to do with all the money Apple began raking in over recent years and asked for advice. He ultimately ignored that advice in his typical fashion while telling others that Buffett agreed with his decision for Apple to just sit on its money.
During his Ask Warren segment, Buffett recounted a phone conversation he had with Apple¡¦s late CEO from a couple of years back. During the call Jobs asked his fellow billionaire about the options available to Apple. And while Buffett provided some advice, Jobs apparently decided not to take it.
It was an interesting conversation because I hadn¡¦t talked to him in a long time. He said, ¡¥We¡¦ve got all this cash. What should we do with it?¡¦ So we went over the alternatives. It was kind of interesting.
Buffett¡¦s advice boiled down to four possible options: buyback Apple stock, issue dividends, use it to acquire other companies, and ¡§sitting with it.¡¨ Buffett told Jobs he thought the best option would be to buyback stock.
¡¥I would use it for buybacks if I thought my stock was undervalued.¡¦ And I said, ¡¥How do you feel about that?¡¦ The stock was 200-and-something. He said, ¡¥I think my stock is very undervalued.¡¦ I said, ¡¥Well, what better to do with your money?¡¦
Ultimately, Jobs and Apple ended up taking the last option that Buffett had mentioned, which was essentially nothing.
He just liked having the cash. It was very interesting to me because I later learned that he said I agreed with him to do nothing with the cash.

Read more at http://www.cultofmac.com/148988/warren-buffett-steve-jobs-asked-my-advice-on-apples-cash-but-didnt-take-it/#CJKecxGrfUUiRMug.99
§@ªÌ: King818    ®É¶¡: 2013-1-25 08:39

Thank you for sharing!
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Buffett¡¦s advice boiled down to four possible options:
1: buyback Apple stock,
2: issue dividends,
3: use it to acquire other companies, and
4: ¡§sitting with it.¡¨
Buffett told Jobs he thought the best option would be to buyback stock.
¡¥I would use it for buybacks if I thought my stock was undervalued.

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http://www.cultofmac.com/148988/ ... -but-didnt-take-it/
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§@ªÌ: polyperry    ®É¶¡: 2013-1-26 08:16

News from "Apple" Daily.An interesting comparison. For your information.


http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/finance/20130126/163267/%E8%98%8B%E6%9E%9C%E5%B8%82%E5%80%BC%E8%B7%8C%E6%8E%89%E4%B8%80%E5%AE%B6Google%E3%80%80%E7%BE%8E%E5%AD%9A%E9%87%8D%E5%9B%9E%E9%BE%8D%E9%A0%AD

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Apple¡¥s shares could rally as much as 50% if the company were to be more aggressive in paying out free cash flow to shareholders, Legg Mason portfolio manager Bill Miller proposed in an interview with the Financial Times.

Miller proposes that Apple keep the $137 billion in cash it already has piled up and apply all future free cash flow into the company¡¦s dividend.

The company paid out about $2.5 billion in dividends to holders in the latest quarter, which is a respectable $10 billion annual rate. But the stock even after the recent slide in price the stock has a yield of just 2.4%.

So, here¡¦s the thing. In the September 2012 fiscal year, Apple boosted its cash position by a whopping $40 billion; in the December quarter the total increased another $16 billion. The stuff is stacking up to the ceiling and beyond.

So imagine the company upped the pay out to, say, $30 billion, and the stock had a yield north of 7%.

Think that would get some attention from investors?

Oh, yes, it sure would.


§@ªÌ: polyperry    ®É¶¡: 2013-2-8 16:51

The iPhone maker sues many tech companies, but a hedge fund manager of David Einhorn¡¦s caliber suing a company of Apple¡¦s stature is breaking new ground.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/02/david-einhorn-sues-apple-inc-aapl-wants-cash/

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